Keep it Catholic, Catholics: A Response to Michael Sean Winters' Attack on Frances Kissling in America
By Mary E. Hunt
June 12, 2009
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In an aggressive post, pro-life Catholic Michael Sean Winters responded to Frances Kissling's opposition to an anti-choice, anti-birth control pick for the Dept of Health and Human Services. Mary Hunt responds to Winters.

I debated in Catholic high school and Jesuit college. We practiced by taking positions other than our own so we would understand the ins and outs of our opponents’ ways of thinking. We were taught that gratuitous slams at the other side were never acceptable, and that they certainly were no substitute for reasoned arguments. We were coached to avoid ad hominem (in those days we did not imagine ad feminam) arguments at all costs since they insulted our worthy opponents and made clear that we were out of ideas to bolster our own positions. In the rough and tumble of real world debates, it is training that has stood me in good stead.

Imagine my surprise to read on the Jesuit magazine America’s blog a recent post by Michael Sean Winters in which he violated all the rules. His attack on Frances Kissling and her recent article in Salon began with a gratuitous slam.

If Frances Kissling is not equipped to talk about Catholicism and reproductive choice I don’t know who is, even if Mr. Winters does not like what she has to say. He ended with ad feminam arguments. Frances is a sophisticated feminist thinker who cannot be written off as outdated regardless of whether one agrees with her or not. Such attacks are bad form and do not contribute to the common good.

Frances Kissling needs no defense from me or anyone else. She is fully capable of handling her own battles. She has done so in decades of dedicated work to assure women’s access to reproductive health services over the vehement protestations of Catholic officials and others, like Mr. Winters, who simply disagree about women’s right to make decisions about their own bodies. So be it.

What I detect, however, in this blog piece is shades of the replication of a tactic that Vatican officials use when they are challenged. They imply or declare that the person who disagrees with them is not really “Catholic,” not worthy to raise hard questions that apparently only ordained Catholic men behind closed doors are able to handle. There are hints of this dynamic in the larger debates about Catholics in government service. I want to explore it in an effort to nip it in the bud among those who claim to want to work together for social change.

Claiming to be “more Catholic than thou” is a dead end and a waste of time when our plates are full of challenges to the well being of people and the planet. While we do not necessarily agree on the details, that those of us who are Catholic are Catholic is simply not up for discussion. If some Catholics want to become Unitarians or Buddhists, Presbyterians or atheists that is all well and good. But for those who claim our Catholic identity, the matter is closed.

I do not stand above this fray. I am a feminist Catholic who is committed to a full social justice agenda. This means that in addition to wanting to end war, poverty, racism and sexism, I want to create a just economic order on a sustainable planet. I am pro-sex, pro-choice, and pro-LGBTQ. In case that is not clear, I think sex is a human right, abortion is a woman’s legal and moral prerogative, and same-sex loving people ought to have every right, including marriage if they wish, that opposite-sex loving people enjoy. Further, it is my theological conviction that all these positions are consistent with Catholic thought and extend the tradition in ways that each generation is expected to do. This is what Catholic looks like in the twenty-first century. I welcome and respect such transparent statements from other Catholics so we know who stands where. But such statements are rare when the risk of being labeled “not Catholic,” or “not approved by the Vatican,” or for politicians, being denied Communion, is all too real.

I am an active participant in contemporary intellectual and activist work. But I will not engage, especially with other Catholics, in efforts to discredit one another at the level of faith or religious practice. Nor should anyone else. Let the arguments rise and fall on their merit, not on the particular expression of religious belief of the speaker much less on her/his mass attendance and other matters of individual conscience. I have no way to evaluate anyone’s piety and less interest. I reject efforts to judge mine.

Protestations by traditional Catholics to the contrary notwithstanding, a basic premise among the world’s billion Catholics is that we have very different views and different ways of living out our faith. This is simply a fact of life. When pressed to say what makes us “Catholic,” there is not one simple answer. I sometimes say we are the ones who laugh heartiest at Catholic jokes!

Catholicism, like every religion, is a complex reality. The sights and sounds, tastes and smells of a religious tradition mark adherents just as much as dogmas and doctrines, popes and parishes. So efforts to say one is Catholic if and only if one believes in x, y and z are vexed by complexity and fraught with dangers. What if we left someone aside? That is a decidedly not Catholic way to go.

Progressive Catholics were effectively sidelined during the Bush years. But now that we have a president who could be called metaphorically “Catholic” the way Bill Clinton was referred to as “Black,” there appears to be new space for our views in places of influence. Since priests and members of Catholic religious orders are discouraged (forbidden in some cases) from elected or even appointed government leadership, the Catholics who will serve are virtually all lay people with varying views and practices.

Some of what I would call “professional Catholics,” that is people who work for the institutional church because they can publicly espouse its teachings, are being put into positions related to the faith based agenda of the Obama administration. I have scruples about the whole faith-based approach which will await another article.

The administration is understandably intent on keeping its Catholic electoral base and at the same time maintaining cordial relations with the Vatican and the U.S. Catholic bishops. Given that agenda, I would counsel them to take account of the diversity in the Catholic community. It is strategically foolish to put all of your eggs in the Vatican’s basket these days or to put too much stock in what the bishops think, given their track record on pedophilia and parish closings. Lay Catholics think for ourselves and increasingly exert our baptismal right to do so.

A better way forward is to think of Catholics as being as diverse as Jews, though I observe that Jews manage their diversity with a great deal more grace. Then we can lift the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that constrains many professional Catholics from saying what they believe on issues like contraception. There are solid Catholic arguments for the many approaches, not all of which I like, but all of which I have to be honest enough to admit are Catholic. Just as I would not tell an Opus Dei Catholic that I do not recognize her approach as Catholic, I do not expect to have my membership impugned either. As far as I can tell, Catholics are counted by baptismal statistics, not by litmus tests of orthodoxy at the communion rail or in print. It is not for me to judge whose Catholicism is the real McCoy. Nor is it for anyone to judge mine.

We can and will disagree in the big tent that is Catholicism. I ask for the same courtesy that I extend. Then let the debates go on among Catholics of all stripes so that the rich social justice teachings that are part of our common heritage might help to inform contemporary social policy.

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Well said!

Thanks for a very cogent response and challenge Mary. We are in great need of refined and reformed skills in dialoguing with grace.

Peace,
Denise Starkey

RE: Well said!

Thanks, Denise. I hope it helps. MEH

Mary Hunt and Frances Kissling

I am so honored to have learned so much from Mary and Frances over the years.They are prophetic spokespeople who speak for the masses yearning to be free....not controlled by the Church,Synagogue and Mosque but free to be exposed to the great traditions that Mary and Frances represent that many have tried to silence over the centuries.
Thank you dear friends.

Good points, but some very problematic ones as well

I fully agree that our discourse must be civilized, courteous and fair. That is fully in keeping with Catholic teaching and makes understanding arguments much easier. I also agree that Mr. Winters' opening and closing rhetorical salvos were not in that spirit. I also think that Mr. Winters is not entirely accurate, for instance, when he says that contraception is "intrinsically evil". Humanae Vitae, the papal encyclical on contraception, does not use the word "evil" ("malus" in Latin) but "dishonest" ("inhonestus"). Contraception may be intrinsically wrong or disordered but not evil or sinful. There is an important difference in that someone may do an intrinsically wrong thing but without evil intent, full knowledge or grave matter. I wish that Mr. Winters had clarified that.

But may I also suggest that you are not being entirely fair to Mr. Winters? You say that Winters is "imply[ing] or declar[ing] that the person who disagrees with them is not really 'Catholic,' not worthy to raise hard questions that apparently only ordained Catholic men behind closed doors are able to handle." The fact is that Mr. Winters' essay was not solely an "ad feminam" attack against Kissling. He also offered an argument, leaning on Cardinal Bernardin's "seamless garment" pronouncement. He writes: "It isn’t just that it is wrong to see the Catholic vocation in the political life as a one-issue vocation. It is that all issues for the Catholic must be seen through the prism of the horror and the beauty of the Cross and the Crucified." In other words, he argues that there must be an explicit connection between the Catholic faith and the morality that flows from it.

In your essay, however, you offer what seems to me to be an awfully relativist conception of faith and morality. "As far as I can tell," you write, "Catholics are counted by baptismal statistics, not by litmus tests of orthodoxy at the communion rail or in print. It is not for me to judge whose Catholicism is the real McCoy. Nor is it for anyone to judge mine." But then what roles do Scripture and tradition play? What role is there for the community that Jesus entrusted to Peter, saying that the "gates of hell shall not prevail against it"? The logical end of your argument is a completely atomistic religion in which every person goes his or her own separate way, in short, schism. The biblical exhortation to correct the sinner (and thus the whole notion of forgiveness) is rebuked--"you may tell me this is a sin," says the sinner, "but this is MY Catholicism and you have no right to judge me". Note that the argument can be turned against "liberal" Catholics just as easily as it can be used against "conservative" ones. "You may tell me that treating a woman as subservient to a man is sinful," one could say, "but that is YOUR 'liberal' Catholicism, not MINE, and my version is just as valid as yours, so get lost." The Church--by which I mean laity as well as clergy who are all guided by the Holy Spirit--is supposed to be a repository of knowledge and wisdom to discern what is right and what is wrong. Without it, we are left with secular morality. I won't say that secular morality is all bad, but I wouldn't call it Catholic. You yourself acknowledge that there are standards: "There are solid Catholic arguments for the many approaches, not all of which I like, but all of which I have to be honest enough to admit are Catholic." So which is it? Are there standards by which Catholic morality and faith can be judged or is there no way or standing to make that judgment? I don't think you can have it both ways, and I suspect the martyrs would agree.

I will close with a quote attributed to St. Augustine. "In essential things, unity. In non-essential things, liberty. In all things, charity." Let's have civil and charitable discourse and welcome all voices, but let's also remember that being a Catholic means taking a stand.

Jonathan Chow is correct

Hunt's article just doesn't seem to square with what Winters wrote. The above commenter is right to call it unfair, just as it would be right to call Kissling's caricatures unfair. So Hunt characterizes Winters' piece as a crude attack on Kissling's character, more or less. But what I witnessed was merely one Catholic's frustration at a fellow Catholic's outlandish and thorough reduction of faith to a narrowly drawn morality. The ugly manner in which Kissling defended this reduction -- by ruthlessly going after Kelley, a progressive Catholic woman willing to stick to her guns -- was dishonest and uncharitable. When Catholics for Choice undertook a campaign to slander and discredit Kelley and Catholics in Alliance, through editorials and press releases and pamphlets, simply on the basis of her reasoned pro-life views, only to come back and complain that they are the oh-so-poor victims, smacks of hypocrisy, if not outright nihilism.

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